Board: /an/
"/an/ - Animals & Nature" is 4chan's imageboard for posting pictures of animals, pets, and nature.
Paradox edition
This is the invertebrate general. If you have any questions about invertebrates, want to look into owning one or more, or want to simply discuss them, this is the thread to do so, whether it's
>Tarantulas and other spiders
>Myriapods
>Mollusks
>Crustaceans
>Insects
>Or anything without a backbone
Feel free to post it.
Resources/help and information
>ID/General Info
https://bugguide.net
https://www.keepinginsects.com/
>Tarantulas
https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/beginner-guides/
http://www.theraphosidae.be/en
>Ants
https://www.antwiki.org
>Mantids
http://www.mantisonline.eu/index.php?lan=en
>Phasmids
http://www.phasmatodea.com/
>Triops
https://mytriops.com/ I can't imagine more perfect anatomy for an apex predator. Im tired of being covered in blood and scratches. I AM NEVER PLAYING WITH CATS EVEN AGAIN post accurate dinosaur etc. reconstructions Opinions on Pumba the Caracal? ITT we talk about the weather
Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.
Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.
>Flora of the World
http://www.worldfloraonline.org/
>Plants of the World Online
https://powo.science.kew.org/
>Hardiness zones
https://www.plantmaps.com/
>Plant ID Sites
https://identify.plantnet.org/
https://wildflowersearch.org/
>Pests and Diseases
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/advice-search
https://www.growveg.com/plant-diseases/us-and-canada/
>Thousands of Botanical Illustrations
http://www.plantillustrations.org/
>Cacti and Succulents
https://worldofsucculents.com/
https://www.cactiguide.com/
https://www.succulentguide.com/
>Carnivorous plants
https://botany.org/home/resources/carnivorous-plants-insectivorous-plants.html
https://carnivorousplants.org/grow/guides
>Alpine plants
https://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/
>Ponds
https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/actions/how-build-pond
>How to Make a Terrarium
https://terrariumtribe.com/diy-terrarium-guide/
Previously on /plant/
>>4940731 Im going tp post a platypus every day until all of /an/ wants a puggle to snuggle. Old thread got it's leg caught in a jeffries tube. >>4793406. Sorry I had to take a couple of days off. I was dealing with some stuff.
>900x3 seconds to post boo. I dislike this captcha. It just makes me wait and then start over What makes people disliking common long tailed macaques than any other primates? We must secure the existence of our forests and a future for white mooses.
because the beauty of the White swedish moose must not perish from the Earth.
Fiji Iguana Edition
previous: >>4946131
This thread is dedicated to all animals of the Reptilia and Amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answered
Classifieds for finding breeders and products:
>morphmarket.com
>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>caudata.org
Most forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.
When asking a question, make sure to include these details:
>Type and size of animal
>Enclosure dimensions
>Humidity and temperature
>Type of substrate
>The decor you use
>How often you feed
>The type of food you use
>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred
>How often you handle
>Who you bought the animal from
Other Helpful Resources
www.blackjungleterrariumsupply.com
www.joshsfrogs.com
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com
http://www.anapsid.org
http://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htm
https://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html Passover is fast approaching, and little do most know, many pet foods include leavened grains
Remember to switch your pets to kosher food before passover begins and don’t keep kibbleslop in your house. Even though pets aren’t bound by the same covenants as us, feeding them leavened grains is still deriving benefits from them. This is a great time to experiment with cooking fresh food for g*ds chosen fuzzballs!
Try boiling lean meat with carrots, blueberries, and potatoes for starters. Dogs love it! I have a 6 yo Jug who has never had issues with other dogs on the street or at the park before but he has always lived alone with no other dogs.
My gf moved in with me and she has a poodle. The 2 dogs are fine together like they will sleep in the same room next to each other no problem but whenever the poodle starts getting excited and jumps up at me or runs around in a circle etc my dog goes to bite him. Obviously I smack him and shout no and he stops but how do I get him to stop doing it altogether? my dad just sent me this this morning https://youtu.be/IbML_KLOiUU?si=ALCu-OnoJqqS4FXS
this is so fucking sad i love seals and sea lions so much these poor babies Truly the greatest /an/ channel
>makes atheists seethe
>makes jews seethe
>makes muslims seethe
>makes PETA seethe
>actually does meaningful and benificial work
>makes absolute kino content
>is a contributing member to society and about to become a pastor ayy lmao Edition
Previous: >>4932135 small dog edition
/dog/ approved leash law compliance and sporting gear:
https://www.alpineoutfitters.net/
https://www.mtnridge.com/DOG-APPAREL_c_34.html
/dog/ car safety:
https://www.centerforpetsafety.org/test-results/harnesses/cps-approved-harnesses/
/dog/ approved training:
https://avsab.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/AVSAB-Humane-Dog-Training-Position-Statement-2021.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/@TrainingPositive
https://www.youtube.com/@kikopup
https://www.youtube.com/c/SimpawticoDogTraining
https://www.youtube.com/c/SusanGarrett
/dog/ disapproved training (AVOID!): robert cabral, joel beckman, larry krohn, caesar milan
Quality dog food reviews here: https://files.catbox.moe/4qbv21.zip New
/bun/ General
VideoGaems Edition Jackie (mom) is fine after the fish hook incident.
The 2 chicks are growing well and are peaceful.
Previous thread:
>>4962918
Naming contest for the chicks is on:
https://www.friendsofbigbearvalley.org/fobbv-chick-naming-contest-fundraiser/
You can make a small donation and enter one or more names for the raffle. Previously on /jg/ >>4951661
Who is Jefrey (with one F) and why should you care?
He was found abandoned in some bushes late one night, filthy and covered in fleas back in mid-July 2024. He’s growing up fast, and enjoys car rides, climbing trees, fetching his ball, playgrounds, and capybaras. Some believe him to be a goblin or gremlin. He was named after the Pixies song “Space (I Believe In)”.
Jefrey suffers from severe ear-ectile dysfunction.
Originally posted him here back in July 2024 seeking advice for potential health problems due to his folded ears, some /an/ons wanted more of him, and so now you’re stuck with him. Amano edition
Discuss anything aquarium related here, including tanks, bowls, inhabitants, bettas, decor, plants, and issues. Before asking questions in this thread, make sure you give us at least some details when asking a question, such as:
>Tank size (include dimensions, not just volume)
>Unusual Parameters (nitrate, pH, GH, KH)
>Any inhabitants + how long you've had them
>Age of the tank
>Pictures are always helpful
Tank Cycling:
>www.modestfish.com/how-to-cycle-your-aquarium/
Stocking and Water Change Calculator:
>www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
>www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.php
Articles and Care Guides:
>www.seriouslyfish.com/knowledge-base/
>www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/
>www.aquariumcoop.com/
>www.theaquariumwiki.com/wiki/
Aquatic Plant Database:
>www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/plantfinder/all.php
>www.flowgrow.de/db/aquaticplants
previous >>4959242 What the fuck is there problem? Sheep are cute and have lovely symbolism. Any hamster stories /an/? Hello 4chan. This is my first (and last) post on here. This is my cat Sprinkles. Satan's chosen josquitoes Look who just came out of hibernating :) this creature is pure evil (This is animals AND nature?)
Bonsai edition.
This thread is about appreciation of plants. What's your favorite?
WHAT IS SPECULATIVE EVOLUTION?
Speculative evolution is the exploration and imagining of how life might evolve in the future or could have evolved in alternate pasts. It's a multimedia sci-fi genre that harnesses scientific principles to create detailed and plausible hypothetical creatures, ecosystems, and evolutionary histories.
RESOURCES:
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Tutorial
>One-stop shop for relevant background information for starting a project
http://planetfuraha.blogspot.com/
>Fantastic blog covering all sorts of spec evo topics in-depth
https://specevo.jcink.net/
>The Speculative Evolution forums, full of resources and ongoing projects
RECOMMENDED PROJECTS:
https://pastebin.com/zhBbaNTB
>Link to a PDF of Wayne Barlowe’s “Expedition”, a seminal work of speculative evolution full of incredible paintings and illustrations
https://youtu.be/Rbi8Jgx1CNE [Embed]
>”The Future is Wild”, a CGI documentary following the evolution of life on Earth in the far future
https://pastebin.com/esdFrSEZ
>Dougal Dixon, arguably the father of speculative evolution. These are links to PDF’s of his books “After Man”, “The New Dinosaurs”, and “Man After Man”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzZv8tqT_k&list=PL6xPxnYMQpquNuaEffJzjGjMsr6VktCYl&ab_channel=Biblaridion [Embed]
https://sites.google.com/site/worldofserina/
https://sunriseonilion.wordpress.com/
http://www.cmkosemen.com/snaiad_web/snduterus.html
https://www.deviantart.com/sanrou/gallery/56844005/nau
http://www.planetfuraha.nl/
https://multituberculateearth.wordpress.com/
https://sites.google.com/view/lokiworldofrats/home
https://specevo.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=4578&st=15
https://www.deviantart.com/bicyclefrog
https://hardeshur.blogspot.com/p/main-page.html
https://rylmadolisland.blogspot.com/p/main-page.html?zx=bba41f9d602b6b9a are hairless cats 4chan or Reddit? is it acceptable getting an hamster as a pet as an grown ass adult?
never had one as a kid, they seem easy, low maintenance and don't live too long, seems to be the only animal i have time for as a wagiecuck.
>get a cat
i got a mild allergy for cats and it feels wrong having it locked up in my small ass apartment PLEASE HELP! My 4-month-old baby rabbit got stuck in a glue trap. I don't know what to do! I already applied cooking oil and removed most of the glue. He can breathe, eat, and drink water, but he can't stand up—he has no strength. How can I fix this? Is there any non-toxic solution to remove the remaining glue? that's an old picture of her A great thread for the greatest of apes Are individuals beginning to recognize that dogs can enslave their owners? I am acquainted with two couples who have resolved to embrace a dog-free existence this year. Personally, I find great satisfaction in witnessing people awaken to this realization, as I have been ardently advocating this perspective for the past four years. RIP that one anon's petrel thread from 2023
I'll make you this new one. Why does no one respect us? I like siamese cats
they are cute and cuddly >that gaht darn moccasin chased me I tells ya ENERGIZED EDITION
SPRING IS HERE, WAKE THE FUCK UP
PREVIOUS: >>4929989 >hey anon, did you know that secretary bird eggs are more than 2 inches wide? All that is visible now, when it comes to the paleontology news - are just unironic low iq basedboys from Reddit and Deviantart, pushing their shitty paleoart. Sometimes with the help of corporate bosses and Disney slopmakers. Bees, ants and humans fell for the civilization meme and now they work all day just to make these on top of the hierarchy happy We're back.
And we're taking your ice cream! >mfw I hear a mourning dove as I'm walking in to work A thread about owls. Post and appreciate these birds. What kind of owls live in your region?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkFXo253SRk
Barred owl live cam. Idk alot but man theese threads usually make laugh like hyena so lets get one going iv had a really terrible day :( >2025
>not keeping your pomeranian in a bowl
ISHYGDDT Is it possible for a T Rex to become this big? Woof, arf, bau-bau, woof, arf, bark,
Guau, woof, arf, wuff, woof, arf,
Bau-bau, arf, woof, woof, arf, bark.
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Guau, woof, arf, wuff, woof, arf,
Bau-bau, arf, woof, woof, arf, bark.
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Woof, arf, bau-bau, woof, arf, bark. What are the origins of the third world basic dog? Is it the oldest lineage of dogs? dog toys strewn about one's living room is charming to me People call these things "cute".
You must be kitten me. These things are living monsters.
- immortal
- everywhere
- hollow interior
- vacuum-cleaner face So many wonderful breeds are at risk of getting pugged in the near future.
Intense inbreeding, puppy mills, shit eating 3rd worlders failing to properly take care of breeding dogs, etc etc etc.
Some wonderful puppers are now becoming violent, unhealthy meat bags and it sickens me.
Look at the Golden Retriever. They used to be able to live up to 17 years of age. Now you're lucky if you have one that reaches 14. They get cancer more out of any other breed.
Is there anything anyone can do now? *record scratch*
Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got myself into this mess. Discuss the apes of Africa and Asia. Post birds, appreciate birds are bumblebees the most jolly animals, objectively speaking? fishes secretly have legs? How much Prehistoric Planet falls short in terms of direction and cinematography compared to this masterpiece.
https://youtu.be/C0r5P-PzIPU?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/r1yv7Pi78Og?feature=shared
I also really love the "bird-like" movements of the Allosaurus. Amazon and Reddit consultants missed even such a simple detail. what's the explanation for this? Did this rat learn this from seeing a bunch of their fellow rats get caught in a trap? Or did some other rat teach them this? Or did they just get lucky? Sure, there are certain trees sought out for (cherry blossoms), but overall spring forest foliage is not as hyped as overall autumn foliage. Most images/aesthetics of spring I find are about flowers or specific trees, and often in non-realism art the landscape looks more like summer with cherry blossoms.
It kind of sucks, because spring has been my favorite season since I was young, and I don't think there's a scenery as spectacular as what occurs during mid-April where I live. Though honestly I am not a fan of the early spring foliage that occurs during March where we see splotches of colorful buds mixed with empty dormant trees, especially occurring the recent years with warming climate.
picrel was taken in my neighborhood a few years ago and is probably an example of what I consider “spring foliage” Anybody know what kind of grass this is? It’s the slightest bit stretchy and feels like rubber or polyurethane. In the Midwest.
https://time.com/7264043/colossal-biosciences-woolly-mouse-bring-back-mammoth/
>Extinction is typically for good. Once a species winks out, it survives only in memory and the fossil record. When it comes to the woolly mammoth, however, that rule has now been bent. It’s been 4,000 years since the eight-ton, 12-foot, elephant-like beast walked the Earth, but part of its DNA now operates inside several litters of four-inch, half-ounce mice created by scientists at the Dallas-based Colossal Laboratories and Biosciences. The mice don’t have their characteristic short, gray-brown coat, but rather the long, wavy, woolly hair of the mammoth and the extinct beast’s accelerated fat metabolism, which helped it survive Earth’s last ice age. Both traits are the result of sophisticated gene editing that Colossal’s scientists hope will result in the reappearance of the mammoth itself as early as 2028.
>“The Colossal woolly mouse marks a watershed moment in our de-extinction mission,” said company CEO Ben Lamm in a statement. "By engineering multiple cold-tolerant traits from mammoth evolutionary pathways into a living model species, we've proven our ability to recreate complex genetic combinations that took nature millions of years to create."
>(...) Colossal scientists see all of this work as just a first step in developing a more widely applicable de-extinction technology. In addition to the mammoth, they would also like to bring back the dodo and the thylacine—or Tasmanian tiger.
>“Our three flagship species for de-extinction—mammoth, thylacine, and dodo—capture much of the diversity of the animal tree of life,” says Beth Shapiro, Colossal’s chief science officer. “Success with each requires solving a different suite of technical, ethical, and ecological challenges.” I think Brontosaurus lived in swamps. Why? Because a lot of people don't seem to realize that the Morrison formation was heavily covered in wetlands and fern prairies are basically a myth that has no basis in the fossil record. Diplodocids also have very small nasal areas, which reinforces my theory that large nasal areas in Dinosaurs are for moisturizing incoming air, not for cooling outgoing air from an endotherm. That's why Dinosaurs that live closer to swamps have smaller nasal areas then similar animals in their own orders that are more upland creatures. Like the difference between Edmontosaurus and Parasaurolophus. That's why Brachiosaurs have huge nasal areas. Because their heads are super high up in the air where the air is dry. Hey guys, I need some help. I have what my neighbor is calling a "level 3 fairy infestation" in my garden. They've already started worshipping the Azaleas and now they're building some sort of crude stone structure. I don't know what the hell it is but I fear if they finish the little buggers'll never leave. When will modern day monkeys discover fire and start cooking? And will that make them a rival for humans? I think they're ready despite all the naysayers. Deer thread
If you do not deer ITT your mother will die in her sleep tonight edition
>>4935686 - old thread Looks much more natural and realistic than the Disn~ Prehistoric Planet sUbVeRtiVe slop. Hi I'm CrawDude
I have a weird bump on my shell. Silly owner doesnt know what it is. >lives on a continent with no native primates
>venom evolves to be extremely lethal to primates specifically
What causes this? What is their problem? sup bro. don't straw me bro. bro. srsly bro. lift up the fucking cup with your opposable thumb and pour that shit down your fucking throat. k bro? I was looking through my memories on Facebook and one post I don't remember writing is "The Copenhagen zoo incident is why zoos should never exist" (I was 20 years old. Make that what you will). I guess this is what I was talking about, I did not post any link to my post and no one liked nor commented on my post so I have no idea if this is even it but it has to be it. What do we think of this incident? (Apparently, they have a history of killing giraffes in their zoo, not just this one). this is my cat midnight, my parents found him when he was a kitten outside right after a hurricane happened
by this time i was in the mental hospital and already a had cat that just had kittens
luckily the mama cat let midnight feed off of her
u don’t know how happy i was after seeing this cat after getting out of a psych ward
he’s so sweet and loving, i love you midnight A fluffy ginger tabby.She was just shy of 20 years old. My first pet, had her since I was 11. Post close ups of insect faces. Why doesn't /an/ talk much about bugs?
What is this boards favourite arthropods?
I really like the Vietnamese ghost mantis, it looks like the arachnids from Starship Troopers. Excluding the obvious (sharks, crocodilians, big cats, etc) what other animals would or could prey on people? The more obscure the better. >DoNt WoRrY hE's FrIeNdLy! How come it's okay for someone to make malicious, edgy jokes about an animal that isn't a mammal like this, and they get away with it just because they're a popular artist?
Hello anons. It my first time venturing outside of /pol/ or /k/, so I’m not sure if this is the correct board to be posting this in, but here it goes.
I did some reading about the developement of monogamy in humans, and still am not convinced that it arose naturally. Mostly the explanations center around explaining why dad sticks around, not why he keeps one wife, instead of a few. I had a hunch that the development of personal weapons, that make killing almost trivial, and reduce the energy expenditure needed to kill, couldn’t possibly be completely inconsequential to the structure of the family, and in the fiercest and typically the most violent competition outside food. Does anyone have any info or reading material regarding this? Could monogamy have arisen forcefully from the advent of such implements? Or perhaps arisen through some other means, and quietly become the new low-energy-state of the human family upon weapon development?
Picrel. Grug with big stick. Maybe grug reasonable? Maybe he get one she-grug, maybe you get one she-grug. Maybe nobody die? GUESS WHO JUST GOT BACK TODAY Megabats and microbats welcome
FAQ:
>bats in human homes
https://www.batcon.org/about-bats/bats-in-homes-buildings/
>building bat houses and bat gardens
https://www.batcon.org/about-bats/bat-gardens-houses/ Has your pet ever killed something? Did you know that in Ancient Egypt, the mighty SPHINX was also referred to by it’s Coptic title: CATBIRD! Have you ran into these? Sincefollowing bird cams a lot of this stuff is aggregated for me:
Suspicious situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQq4vZZ54WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbkWVcwx4U
Inserting large food items into chick's mouth to cause it to choke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqO_R2X4RM8&
Other common theme is manipulating nests with cuckoo chicks.
The comments under these videos can be creepy, remind me of monkey abuse videos. Why are snakes the scariest animals that exist? Snakes have never ate a human being while animals like tigers have Don't change my mind, if you have no arguments. Your new girlfriend/boyfriend owns or wants to own a pet you don't prefer. Does it work out?
You lied to me, /an/. You told me hedgehogs weren't very smart or social. Mine is more intelligent and more social than most humans.
1. She scritches her mat when she wants to be held, which is a lot.
2. She insists on being petted, rocked, and having her forehead kissed until she's decided she's had enough forehead kisses and crawls into her cuddle pouch.
3. She tries very hard to mimic human speech. She can't make the sounds, but with mouth the following words: Mommy, Daddy, Hello, and will make specific sounds to indicate specific things. She's remarkably vocal.
4. She sometimes holds onto my thumb like it's a teddy bear and will even sleep under my hand.
5. She learned to count to 3. We started counting her food prep in stages 1-3. After that she started running in exactly 3 circles around her food dish whenever we asked her to show us the number 3.
6. She points at things with her nose in the manner of a trained bloodhound to indicate what she wants and won't stop pointing until you finally get it.
7. She figured out all these things on her own in her very active attempts to communicate with us. She does many other social things as well. Too many to list. She has at least the intelligence of a 4 year old human child or a very smart dog.
Are most hedgehogs not this smart or are most owners oblivious retards? he thinks everythings a fucking game So I have a domestic cat, and a wild cat who likes to visit. I've also had a rodent problem recently. Wood/house mice have been coming in.
My domestic cat likes to hunt them for hours. She'll sit near where they're hiding without showing any boredom for hours.
The stray fella will just straight up eat them if he catches them. This has happened severl times.
What do I do about this mouse problem. Is my house cat cruel for hunting/playing but not killing?
I can hear my house cat play hunting now in the background. I can usually catch and release the mouse much faster than she does (she's a bit stupid). what do you think of rats Asia and Africa have their respective species, and there are several small cats in South/central America like the oncilla, geoffroys cat, and pampas cat, how come North America never got its own native wildcat? I wouldn't imagine it was the geography since NA basically mirrors most old world landscapes that wildcats live in. There are other mesopredators like foxes in the old world and they don't compete for the same food (birds, reptiles, etc). And while there are bobcats they aren't exactly that small and mostly prey on rabbits and hares. NA seemed ripe for a small cat species to fit into, but it never happened. What do you guys think? Why don't people who claim to care about animals yet still eat them because they believe they need nutrients found only in animals just eat a plant based diet with oysters?
Oysters contain large amounts of animal protein, animal fat, cholesterol, EPA, DHA, Iodine, B12, etc
Oysters aren't sentient as they have no brain and only nerve ganglia
>But I'll get sick of eating them!!
Blend and or freeze dry them and put them in pills and take them as pills
>But that's inconvenient
That inconvenience justifies torturing chickens in factory farms?
>But my chickens come from pasture raised farms where they live happy lives
If they are living Happy lives it's wrong to unnecessarily cut them short by killing them when they're relatively young because they're full sized or their egg production has slowed down. If they're living miserable lives it's wrong to breed them into existence.
>But oysters can hurt other sentient animal and destroy environment etc etc
Get farmed oysters The single most important invention in the history of life >no qt bird loving gf
why even live >ornithischians with cheeks
Into the trash this outdated dogshit show goes. Post multiple trees blooming in spring why should i pay 100+ bucks for a finch when theres plenty outside for free? Anyone keep Tarantulas? I've begun a small collection so far.
Brachypelma Auratum, Tliltocatl Albopilosus, Chromatopelma Cyaneopubescens, Acanthoscurria Geniculata, and a Grammastola Quirogai so far. Do you think they should impose a law that forbids city dwellers to own noisy animals like yapping dogs?
I sympathize with people who go mental and shoot the neighbor's dog for nonstop barking. Hey riddle me this /an/. It suddenly dawned to me somewhat recently that while its easy for me to feel and spontaneously display feeling and affection to animals,my emotional response to humans is kinda of dead,and while this has been going on for some time it just suddenly clicked how weird it is,like how come i reserve that only for animals (and anime chicks) ya know? Anyway, at some point i figured that maybe i should try to cut down on cats and general petting until i got my human touch back but we'll see how that works out. Anyway,i'm just curious to see if you know what i mean by that,other than the yeah i'm antisocial too answer and how to actually care a bit for those two-leggers. Excuse the subject title it just feels right.