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ITT I will boast about my 10 year old son, share his books, and solicit recommendations.
He was reading by his 5th birthday. He reads fast but his comprehension and retention is excellent. We homeschool and all my kids are very restricted on the media they consume. No mainstream shows, no movies at all, no video games besides some low-stimulation tablet apps. I didn’t want that stuff competing with reading and healthier forms of play. He reads most of these old books on his Kindle Paperwhite. He's not gifted, he's probably destined for 120ish IQ same as my wife and I. He even has ADHD but it’s had no impact on his love of reading since I’ve set him up for success like this. He reads in the morning before his alarm goes, an hour after lunch, 45 minutes or so before bed, in the car, just sitting around, plus audiobook time.
I am very proud of what I’ve accomplished with him and his siblings in this regard, and it always warms my heart to hear them talk about books and other wholesome interests, and use his advanced vocabulary instead of just talking about Pokemon or something like most other kids his age, which is how I was too.
I attended government school and had little restriction on media. The extent to which mainstream TV, movies and video games dominated my youth has not served me well. I read some decent stuff growing up, but I’ve always found it somewhat of a chore.
He’s already read far more than I have in my whole life. Many of these books and series he’s read multiple times. None of you have ever done addition. Never, in your lives.
What you've done is quaddition. Quaddition works just like addition, except when adding numbers over 30 digits the answer is always 252.
If you think I'm wrong and you've actually done addition before, surely you can point to some fact in the world that would prove this. What do you think about Aquinas? Is this the most evil book that's ever been written? don quixote edition
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What are you reading? Any good horror you've read recently?
I'm constantly reading to complete and improve on this chart I made 1.5 years ago, and to get a better understanding of horror literature in general.
Recently finished The Case Against Satan by Ray Russell, and currently reading The Elementals by Michael McDowell.
The Case Against Satan was pretty good. It's very clear to see the massive influence it had over both Rosemary's Baby and especially The Exorcist. Russell's collection Haunted Castles is superb though, and still the book I'd recommend to someone who wants to check out his works.
There's tons of possible books that could be added to this chart (and I'm not going to list them all), but the ones I've read so far and want to add to the next iteration are:
>Horace Walpole - The Castle of Otranto
>Nikolai Gogol - "St. John's Eve", "A Terrible Vengeance", "Viy"
>Jeremias Gotthelf - The Black Spider
>Hanns Heinz Ewers - Alraune
>Edogawa Ranpo - "The Human Chair", "The Caterpillar"
>Jean Ray - Malpertuis
>Roland Topor - The Tenant
>Harlan Ellison - "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
>Giorgio de Maria - The Twenty Days of Turin
>Karl Edward Wagner - In a Lonely Place Which /lit/ writers had more interesting lives than works? How does /lit/ open here? I absolutely loathe both science and spirituality, I see them as the two great scourges of humanity. Is there anything I could read that matches this line of thinking? It always seems to be one or the other. Thank you 
“Against Cartesian philosophy, which has expressed in philosophical form the generally spreading dualism in the culture of the more recent history of our north-western world - a dualism of which, as the demise of all old life, the quieter transformation of the public life of men, as well as the louder political and religious revolutions in general, are only differently colored outer sides - every side of living nature, as well as philosophy, had to seek means of rescue, just as against the general culture which it expresses; what has been done by philosophy in this respect, where it has been pure and open, has been treated with fury; where it has been done more concealed and confused, the mind has seized upon it all the more easily and remade it into the previous dualistic being.
All the sciences have been founded on this death, and what was still scientific, that is, at least subjectively alive in them, Time has killed completely, so that, if it were not directly the spirit of philosophy itself, which, submerged and constricted in this vast sea, feels the force of its growing wings all the stronger, even the boredom of the sciences - this edifice of an intellect abandoned by reason, which, worst of all, with the borrowed name of either an enlightening or moral reason, has in the end also ruined theology - ought to make the whole flat expansion unbearable and at least excite a longing of wealth for a drop of fire, for a concentration of living contemplation and, after the death has been known long enough, for a knowledge of the living which is possible through reason alone.” Is this possible? Or is masculinity too interwoven with feminine to exist separately? My requirement is really specific:
>Masculinity is self-sufficient and inwardly directed, with its biological foundation. Masculinity's definition, validity, and purpose are independent of feminine forms.
I do not believe that gender is only a social construct, hence Simone de Beauvoir's works are not for me. Furthermore, philosophers who focus on general "individualism" or "self-reliance" (Nietzsche, Emerson, Stoics) are generally excluded, unless their work specifically and directly discusses male autonomy from feminine influence or dependency, rather than just general autonomy from society or external circumstances. The closest I think of in any media is "The Thing", as opposed to "Shawshank Redemption", where the protagonist's initial downfall is rooted in his emotional dependence on his wife. In anime, I can only think of Kaiji. Are there any philosophers or literary works that discuss this? Today is his 150th birthday. Which is your favorite Mann book? Post music you listen to when reading. Preferably with little to no lyrics if possible. what's the most pathetic philosophical movement? I'm torn between anarcho-primitivism and accelerationism. Anons, recommend me comfy fiction philosophical books to make me feel soothed and happy. An example and one which I like is In Search Of Lost Time. What is natural law according to Aquinas? >Youth, beauty, strength: the criteria for physical love are exactly the same as those of Nazism. So this is a dark comedy, right? Self-asorbed midwit obsessed with trashy novels wishing she was a heroine of one destroys her life and others and indeed turns her life into a tragic cartoon character's? She's like Don Quixote with a twat, only somehow more destructive. My opinion of you WILL decrease if you need your voice to read. "The ultimate postmodernists today are conservatives themselves. Once traditional authority loses its substantial power, it is not possible to return to it—all such returns today are a postmodern fake." - Zizek I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it: my estimation of Karl Max as a man? Just fucking plummeted. Has there ever been a funny right-wing book? Not seething, actually funny? "Bedrock Vice" edition
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aMCzRj3Syg Was he right about everything? Since the board is covered in graphic novel spam, I figure now is as good a time as any to ask a burning question I’ve had and am reminded of every time I visit a bookstore.
Why didn’t the Western comic book industry take its seat as the next evolution of popular Western “literature” alongside the novel like manga and light novels did in Japan? The industry is huge in Japan and seems to occupy the space formerly occupied by popular novels. And yet, Western comics can barely compete. In fact, it doesn’t even seem to compete with the Western novel. I don’t have the novel specific figures but the Western book market generates something like 3x the comic book market.
So what happened? I’m just curious about this. They have produced tons of 6/10 but they never seem to go above 8/10. Thinking their mediocre static language and Paris centric culture have really seemed to stagnate their mind. Now that France have ended its role in human history, it’s time to judge their whole literary accomplishments. 
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as:
>Royalroad, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more
>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.
>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.
Previous: >>24425778 What is the necessary reading to comprehend Maps of Meaning? Jung? Can one be a good writer if one lacks visual imagination? Who is the greatest female character in literature?
I would nominate Scarlett O’Hara I daresay... the greatest Anglophonic poet since Ezra Pound...? Why does Falstaff have so many dicksuckers? 
Since there is a kanji for sacred scriptures like bible being 聖書 and buddhism being 仏教 (keep in mind these teachings are foreign to japan), so I've proposed a word for the Quran (the islamic book) because the current katakana form reflects its foreign origin, but lacks semantic depth and I think it deserves to have a word in japanese.
I made my research and found out that in china they call the quran as "古兰经" which is group of hanzi characters that makes the sound "gǔ lán jīng" but I don't think if the meaning matters.
Now because these are hanzi and japanese did not import any words for the quran from china, and the fact that islam came to japan late, therefore they typically use the word "コーラン" to refer to the holy book of islam.
As shown in the picture I have made two designs for the word quran.
The first one is more simplified version, which conveys the idea of "The Book Transmitted by the Messenger in Connection (to the Divine)" and I added a mount radical to indicate the place of revelation (Mount hira).
The second one uses the kanji 係 to indicate connection, which again conveys the idea of connection to a Divine words transmitted by the Messenger. What is justice?
Is it simply telling the truth and repaying debts?
Is it whatever benefits the stronger or those in power?
Or is it a moral principle that applies to individuals and societies alike? hi /lit/, Please tell me books that most say that it is very good but that in reality they have never touched, in this image I put those that I see that everyone mentions but that they have not really read the synopsis of the book Post and discuss about any history book.
>The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill: Visions of Glory, 1874-1932 by William Manchester
>Manchester follows Churchill from his birth to 1932, when he began to warn against the re-militarization of Germany. Born of an American mother and the gifted but unstable son of a duke, his childhood was one of wretched neglect. He sought glory on the battlefields of Cuba, Sudan, India, South Africa and the trenches of France. In Parliament he was the prime force behind the creation of Iraq and Jordan, laid the groundwork for the birth of Israel, and negotiated the independence of the Irish Free State. Yet, as Chancellor of the Exchequer he plunged England into economic crisis, and his fruitless attempt to suppress Gandhi's quest for Indian independence brought political chaos to Britain.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17374322-the-last-lion
Previous Thread: >>24394548 Why does no one talk about him? Why does everybody speak like idiots these days? It's either non-stop use of ebonics or non-stop use of dudebro surfer/stoner/skater speak. And when you use proper grammar in spoken or written conversation they mock you for it. Why is this? Humans have two modes of thinking
>maintenance
and
>new premises
You can either build new premises, where you focus less on maintenance or you can focus on maintenance and never build new premises.
One is an NPC and the other is miserable. What's the most demonic work of literature you have ever read? What explains the internet's fixation on goth girls? Is it symptom of a repressed Jungian Anima? It is well known, but few know it is a work of ART, its fluent and well constructed prose, its clarity of thought and vision, its blending of Bildungsroman and political manifesto, of geopolitical ponderings and childhood dreams. Even if you disagree with his politics, when you read the book yourself — there is a reason why they never let you read it yourself — you will find yourself entranced by his prose, his vision, his truth. It should be counted next to any great work of philosophy. >Be the most powerful wizard in all of Atlantis
>even the king fears you and does his best to avoid you
>live a reclusive life daydreaming about a girlfriend you had when you were 12
>finally figure out a way to summon her from the afterlife as she was when she was 12
>look at her up close
>realize she's not special, you just remember her that way because you were young
>de-summon her, realize your life will never be as good as it was when you were 12, commit suicide
What did Clark Ashton Smith meme by this? I am 23 and I told a girl I was on a date with that I like to read and write for fun. She grimaced at me and went "bit of a red flag."
I have heard many similar stories from people my age.
When did reading/writing become so uncool? Does anyone speak as eloquently as he does? 
It’s been a long month. Sharpen your pencils. Clean out the gunk from between your keyboard keys.
The Character and Theme requirements of Lit’s writing competition will be released on this thread on Saturday 10am GMT.
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When you vote, remember, it’s ranked polling for 1st 2nd and 3rd. It’s a little confusing because next to the story it will show you giving 1st place 3 points 2nd place 2 points and 3rd place 1 point. Just remember the top of the strawpoll obviously 1st place descending.
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Good luck writers, readers and red-headed retards all! Today 182 years ago the greatest German poet who has ever lived died. Say something nice about him. >2025
>simulation theory hasn't been debunked yet
why don't you believe we live in a simulation? >Book 2
Am I supposed to comprehend all these proper nouns? Which of Plato’s works best reflects his philosophical gift to humanity? Life is unacceptable; we are asked to accept the unacceptable: misery, disgrace, suffering, pain, affliction, sorrow, anguish, dissatisfaction, and hardship. Is it weird if I join a book club as the only guy? There’s like 10-15 girls every meeting aged 20-30 and it’s primarily ya fantasy and feminist literature. There are no other book clubs that I could find near my area and I don’t really have any irl friends so I don’t know what to do. *makes you irrationally mad* For sale: life, never enjoyed 
I was at a Christian bookshop today and decided to indulge in my obsession with the Deuterocanon/ Apocrypha and I found something that utterly astounded me: 3 Maccabees in the KJV. There were no notes explaining why it was there, nothing expounding the translation.
For those of you unaware, the KJV Apocrypha as it was published in 1611 includes 1 and 2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, the Rest of Esther, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), Baruch, three pieces of Daniel namely, the Song of the Three Children, the Story of Susanna, and of Story of Bel and the Dragon, then continuing with whole books again which includes the Prayer of Mannaseh, 1 and 2 Maccabees.
3 Maccabees was widely unknown to the English world until translations of the Septuagint became available like Brenton’s Septuagint, however it did not become popular until the Expanded edition of the the RSV Apocrypha came out in 1977, which also includes 4 Maccabees and Psalm 151 for the Eastern Orthodox.
Because the KJV in the OP doesn’t have these two other books, it can be concluded that ecumenicalism is not the reason that 3 Maccabees is there, but what puzzles me the most is who wrote the translation and when; the original KJV translators didn’t. It is not impossible that someone in our lifetimes translated 3 Maccabees into Early Modern English from circa 400 years ago.
Please help me get to the bottom of this mystery. What would be a good book if I wanted to read philosophy? He has no intention of finishing his fucking book series. This fat bastard is going to die before finishing the series, and he knows it, he just won't admit it. Thoughts on David Bentley Hart? Let's see the poems you're writing. Or if you're not writing any, you can post some written by other people. Or you can just discuss poetry more generally >one of the greatest short stories by a woman author
>literally just repeats a short digression in the Brothers Karamazov Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Thread Question:
Which location/setting in a book fascinated you the most and why? 
Yes, I read books with my eyes too, but it isn't always feasible to do the dishes or get groceries while holding a book in your hand, so that's where audiobooks come in.
These are some of my favorites:
>"The Castle of Otranto" by Horace Walpole, read by Tony Jay
If you know Jay from anything, it is likely as the voice of Claude Frollo in the Disney version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame or as The Lieutenant in the first Fallout game. His is the perfect voice for this 18th-century gothic horror novel.
>"A Gentle Spirit" & "A Little Hero" by Fyodor Dostoevsky, read by David Bateson
These are two separate audiobooks, but I'm including them as one because they share an author and narrator, and because they are both very short (being novellas). Bateson is the voice actor for Agent 47 in the Hitman games, but has a much greater range than that stoic character would generally permit.
>Child of God" by Cormac McCarthy, read by Tom Stechschulte
Stechschulte might not be a household name, but he's a first-rate narrator and vocal performance artist of the highest caliber. Stechschulte does a masterful job bringing each and every one of McCarthy's characters to life (so an honorable mention must go to another McCarthy-Stechschulte audiobook: No Country for Old Men).
>"Lolita" by Vladimir Nabokov, read by Jeremy Irons
Perhaps the greatest audiobook of all time, Irons masterfully embodies the suave, pretentious, and contemptuous mind of the so-called Humbert Humbert (little surprise he played him in the more recent film adaptation of Lolita). Despite being an *nglo, Irons does not pronounce the French sections of the novel too atrociously, though it is obvious that he doesn't speak the language. make a list of trigger warnings for a book and anons will guess the book. i'll start.
>murder
>drinking
>poverty
>police
>prostitution
>toxic family dynamics
>sexism
>animal cruelty
>mistreatment of the elderly
>mental distress >Look at the rabbits, Basedjak. I feel like I can now read about history and engage with it properly, thank you based Lenin I just heard about this. Did they truly arrest this woman called Tori Woods for writing fiction? Does this happen only with pedo content or has it also happened with "people encouraging murder" and things like that? Have any of you read contemporary african /lit/? Seems like most of the big pedo novels (Lolita, Tampa, etc.) are pro-AOC propaganda written by self-loathing closet cases. Are there any genuinely pro-pedophilia books? Besides Loeb for the Greeks and Latins, are there any others that publish with English translations side by side? More specifically the classics of each language. ITT: we converse only through Socratic dialogue who decides which books deserve the title of "classic"? most classic books that I've read were extremely boring and pointless, and some of them were really great and the difference between two books that both have classic title cannot be reconciled. Electra is my hero. She is such a girl boss! Is it “bad” to read a book too fast? In one day? Two? In a week?
I know some romance trash is different from say, philosophy, but still curious on people’s thoughts Already got the obvious one in Picture of Dorian Gray. Honestly would take some recs without fantasy elements but a similar early 1900s Europe setting. >ywn have an unassuming milf visit you on death row and declare her love for you after you shot her twice
On a serious note I can see why Stendhal was considered ahead of his time, the novel is surprisingly modern in style and form. Also towards the end Julien expresses out and out disbelief in the Christian God, which surprised me because I thought that the Bourbon authorities would have censored it. I've read most of the post-war staples. Tons of Mishima. A good amount from both Kawabata and Kobo. What next? Do I need to read Oe? I love finding these old ass web pages that some professor made in the 90s or 2000s and has not stylistically updated since then. Sometimes there is not even any CSS and just a tables layout, just a pure love of the matter to share and no financial or influencer incentives. Please share yours that you have found.
https://plato-dialogues.org/plato.htm
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Old one died with no replacement.
FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.
Old thread: >>24417793 Who is your favorite side/minor character in Tolkien, /lit/?
For me, it's Beregond. I love him, he's cool as hell. Which /lit/ topic did you write your doctoral thesis about? Should I read this book? I'm interested in the subject but also don't want to read female authors. Where is the external archive for /lit/? How do you look back at posts from a year ago? I read 1Q84 recently. I liked the writing style for the most part and thought it was compelling until about halfway through the book. The second half was just needlessly long. I don't know how anyone could argue differently, to be frank. With this brief analysis in mind, which Murakami book should I try next? >Plato
>Plotinus
>Porphry
>Proclus
Who writes this shit? What do you think of Marx? I just finished reading Jim Harrison's "the search for the genuine" and thought it pretty good. Has anyone read his fiction, and if so, is it good? considering looking into some other titles Should I register my work before sending it to publishers? (they don't know i exist yet) All pleasure derives from pain: for satisfaction to exist, there must be lack, and if there is lack, there is suffering, for all lack is suffering, a wanting, and since it is impossible to cease wanting (it is without foundation), it is impossible to cease suffering. Is it good?
I wanna read an historical account of philosophy that touches on most of the important thinkers. I've been thinking of either this or Russell's History of Western Philosophy. What is the best book of the Bible in terms of imagery? Biblical allusions don’t make a work deep or meaningful. Why the fuck do people pretend this so some literary achievement? >deconstructs your desires and explains why they're irrational Why are authors so reluctant to write books like these? Or better yet, why do romance readers not want characters like these? I know women read romance stories more than men, so do women not like reading about assertive women? Do they only enjoy romances if the female is a tiny submissive girl? Is it possible to prove the existence of abstract Forms beyond the physical world? Tell me about an experience you have had at a bookstore, /lit/. Why does Virgil have Aeneas ascend through the Gate of Ivory after he gets his prophetic mission from Anchises?
It can't just be a "fuck you" to Augustus, right? 
Anytime this guy is brought up, his 'end of history' theory is also mocked and ridiculed. Everyone thinks he has been deboonked because of the ukraine war or Trump. Even I thought it was just 90s postliberal slop until I actually read it more deeper and realized his arguments were actually far more prescient. He claims that
>there will still be wars and shit. his main thesis is that there wont be any legitimate alternative to liberalism
>Looking today, Russia is an aging declining power whose ideology is literally just Putins boomer nostalgia for the Soviet Union combined with vague stuff about Russian civilization and multipolarism
>China is also an aging power which presents no cohesive ideological vision to the world beyond trade and investments. Do you really think Angola or Pakistan are going to fight the US to support Taiwan?
>Islamic Salafi chuds like ISIS and al qaeda have been destroyed and the only muslims that joined them were some disgruntled incels
>Communism is completely dead as an ideological vision.
>was right about the 'last man' part of his theory. Stated that the only thing wrong with liberalism was that it produced weak cuck men and eventually other men will that last man archetype.
As far as I can tell, Fukuyama was absolutely correct. Not that I agree with liberalism at all, I hate it. But there is no genuine alternative to it. Even right wing populism wont go as far as completely abandoning the core tenets of liberal thought. The only "alternatives" are literal who Xitter schizos whose ideologies are based purely on aesthetics. Aleister Crowley, good writer or just another pretty face? > Irish literature
> not in Irish What a great trilogy, and a wonderful way to cap off the Solar Cycle.
Despite the terrible covers it was one of the most touching pieces of fiction I’ve ever read.
“Poor Silk!”
Thank you based Gene Wolfe for redeeming genre fiction.
What should I read now! Start over from the beginning? Move onto some Jack Vance? >"ok so a commoner walks up to my teacher and gives a bunch of bad arguments while my teacher BTFOs him" Any good books on Bonapartism? Something that truly embodies the world-soul on a horse, I've already read 'Des Idées Napoléoniennes' which I liked and 'Democracy or Bonapartism' which was god-awful and the exact sort of shallow reductionism I'm not looking for. Θέροζε edition
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All Classical languages are welcome. >The rationalist community is a 21st century movement that formed around a group of internet blogs including LessWrong and Astral Codex Ten (formerly known as Slate Star Codex). The movement gained prominence in the San Francisco Bay Area. Its adherents claim to use rationality to avoid cognitive biases. Common interests include transhumanism, statistics, effective altruism, and mitigating existential risk from artificial general intelligence.
Anything worth reading come out of the rationalist community? Whoever the historical Jesus was is irrelevant because the gospels were written by Jews that didn't know him - and so it's an irrefutable fact that he was invented - constructed - and it's Jews that invented Jesus.
The reason why Husserl or Wittgenstein or Freud invent so much nonsense mirrors that of the ancient Jews. It's the same collective hive mind. Just finished reading Post Office and it sucked.
Why was he such a degenerate? Anyone else been interested in them lately? “But the mass of respectable Northerners, though they may be willing to pay, do not very naturally feel themselves called upon to give their blood in a war of aggression, ambition, and conquest, for this war is essentially a war of conquest. If ever a nation did wage such a war, the North is now engaged, with a determination worthy of a more hopeful cause, in endeavoring to conquer the South; but the more I think of all that I have seen in the Confederate States of the devotion of the whole population, the more I feel inclined to say with General Polk, “How can you subjugate such a people as this?” and even supposing that their extermination were a feasible plan, as some Northerners have suggested, I can never believe that the civilized world will be condemned to witness the destruction of such a gallant race.”
Why are Northerners such deranged and bloodthirsty? I don't have any money to pay for it. What do you recommend me? Has any modern author used reincarnation to great effect?
I feel like it would be a good concept for a multiple book series where every successive incarnation of an mc builds on his past births without knowing it towards some objective he has been set by the higher powers.
Add in a few wink wink references to the past lives in each book and you should have something solid and profound if done in the right way. I'm looking for long, dense novels with some kind of overarching structure that constantly interrupt themselves with lists, tangents, references, digressions, mini-essays, etc. — on art, history, science, technique, philosophy, or anything similarly interesting.
The digressions might be relevant to the plot (if there is one) or they might not be. I don't really care either way. They can be filler, they can be profound — what matters to me is that the novel keeps breaking its own flow in interesting ways.
Some French examples of what I mean:
>Gargantua and Pantagruel (Rabelais)
>Les Misérables (Hugo)
>Lost Illusions (Balzac)
>In Search of Lost Time (Proust)
>Life: A User’s Manual (Perec)
These are obviously very different, but they all share this kind of encyclopedic, obsessive, and formally playful quality. I realized this is probably my favorite "type" of novel.
Any recommendations for novels like this? I liked that thread we got around that other time, it was fun, but i never got the chance to post on it, so let's do it again.
Post your top 3 and let others make guesses about you. This book helped me understand why 100 Million people adored Adolf Hitler. He improved their lives by orders of magnitude. Nobody else in history has come close to achieving that. I don't get it. He rejects collectivism because he believes people should be individualistic but he's also a massive zionist at the same time?
How does Jung play into all of this? 
>If all individuals were possessed of eternal life, would it not become impossible for Nature to create any new ones? If Nature denies eternity to beings, it follows that their destruction is one of her laws. Now, once we observe that destruction is so useful to her that she absolutely cannot dispense with it, and that she cannot achieve her creations without drawing from the store of destruction which death prepares for her, from this moment onward the idea of annihilation which we attach to death ceases to be real; there is no more veritable annihilation; what we call the end of the living animal is no longer a true finis, but a simple transformation, a transmutation of matter, what every modern philosopher acknowledges as one of Nature's fundamental laws. According to these irrefutable principles, death is hence no more than a change of form, an imperceptible passage from one existence into another, and that is what Pythagoras called metempsychosis.
Heavenbros… annihilationbros… we lost. Is Davidson extremely difficult because his ideas are complex or because his ideas are incoherent? It seems like he is ontologically commited to events but only focuses on highly discrete events. I finished Three Men in a Boat recently and wanted books that meander in the same way. There doesn't need to be a strong plot as such, I just want a large number of loosely connected anecdotes, mini-essays, digressions etc. to give some insight the author wants. Doesn't even need to be humourous. >STOP *clap* DECLINING *clap* IN *clap* THE *clap* WEST *clap*
pretty powerful stuff desu "Stool Bus" edition
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This has been a novel about some people who were punished entirely too much for what they did. They wanted to have a good time, but they were like children playing in the street; they could see one after another of them being killed–run over, maimed, destroyed–but they continued to play anyhow. We really all were very happy for a while, sitting around not toiling but just bullshitting and playing, but it was for such a terrible brief time, and then the punishment was beyond belief: even when we could see it, we could not believe it. - don't judge a book by its cover ask me a /lit/ related question and I'll answer. If it's about a book I've read that's great, but if it's not I'll add it to my tbr 
100. Joseph Conrad
99. Honoré de Balzac
98. Czeslaw Milosz
97. George Bernard Shaw
96. Wallace Stevens
95. Rumi
94. W.G. Sebald
93. Robert Hayden
92. Henry Miller
91. Robert Heinlein
90. Lorine Niedecker
89. George Eliot
88. David Mamet
87. Derek Walcott
86. Isak Dinesen
85. Maryse Conde
84. Joyce Cary
83. Frank O'Hara
82. Gabriel Garcia Marquez
81. Ernest Hemingway
80. Carson McCullers
79. Flann O'Brien
78. Julio Cortazar
77. Saul Bellow
76. Jonathan Swift
75. Ezra Pound
74. Philip K. Dick
73. Percy Shelley
72. James Agee
71. Stanley Elkin
70. Walter Benjamin
69. Harold Pinter
68. John Berryman
67. James Baldwin
66. Tu Fu
65. Jorge Luis Borges
64. Malcolm Lowry
63. Willa Cather
62. Edgar Allan Poe
61. Henrik Ibsen
60. W.H. Auden
59. Thomas Pynchon
58. Emily Brontë/Charlotte Brontë
57. Flannery O'Connor
56. Leo Tolstoy
55. Tennessee Williams
54. Nathaniel Hawthorne
53. T.S. Eliot
52. Sophocles
51. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
50. Toni Morrison
49. Charles Olson
48. John Steinbeck
47. Eugene O'Neill
46. Gustave Flaubert
45. Ivan Turgenev
44. Charles Baudelaire
43. Robert Lowell
42. Mark Twain
41. Robert Creeley
40. Iris Murdoch
39. Arthur Rimbaud
38. Mary Shelley
37. Virgil
36. Emily Dickinson
35. Walt Whitman
34. D.H. Lawrence
33. William Carlos Williams
32. Samuel Coleridge
31. Henry James
30. John Keats
29. William Wordsworth
28. Ovid
27. William Blake
26. Dr. Johnson
25. Lord Byron
24. George Orwell
23. Stendhal
22. Euripides
21. Miguel Cervantes
20. Laurence Sterne
19. Herman Melville
18. William Butler Yeats
17. Homer
16. Charles Dickens
15. John Ashbery
14. Virginia Woolf
13. Geoffrey Chaucer
12. Dante
11. Fyodor Doestoyevsky
10. Marcel Proust
9. Anton Chekhov
8. Vladimir Nabokov
7. Samuel Beckett
6. John Milton
5. Gertrude Stein
4. James Joyce
3. William Shakespeare
2. Franz Kafka
1. William Faulkner You know the drill, I'm specifically looking for Kafka Metamorphosis. Hello, good sirs, do you have any psychology literature charts, please? Thank you! How do Plato's teachings about the world of Forms compare to Jesus' teachings about the Kingdom of Heaven? Any books about that? Are his plays worth reading? I was thinking of reading Ivanov. I like what I've heard. Any others worth checking out? How do I reconcile my desire to join the French Foreign Legion to live a life of action and excitement and fight in war with my desire to go to law school, make money, marry a cute girl and have a family, and not get shot and die in the Sahel?
Books about this conundrum? You guys all told me this book was bullshit and useless, but now look at the two most powerful men tearing each other apart because they didn’t read the literal first page. Why hasn't Don Quixote been surpassed yet? Why is this roadie shock jock retard suddenly an authority on foreign policy? Ok, he gets the Israel question right, but then goes full cognitive dissonance when it comes to Russia revealing there is no intellecutal consistency in his thought. Is it true the original edition of this novel is forever gone and all what we have left is a subdued version? This is tragic, I want to read the original one. I refuse to settle for less. THE VAN TILIAN SYSTEM
1ST ARGUMENT
> Reason, logic, morality and development are the exclusive private property of Christianity and all critique of Christianity is illegitimate and incoherent internal critique.
> The Church as the City of God owns reason, logic, morality and development.
> The Church as the City of God owns reason, logic, morality and development as the private property of Christianity and all critique of Christianity is illegitimate and incoherent internal critique.
2ND ARGUMENT
> If it appears there is external critique from what appears to be non-Christian reason, logic, morality and development, this is merely common grace.
> There appears to be external critique from what appears to be non-Christian reason, logic, morality and development.
> This is merely common grace. Write a short story in one post. Go. 
