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It's a shame that conversations like these are impossible to have because both sides are occupied by three completely different general camps.
On the pro-Empire/Villain side you've got
>Camp A: people who just like the faction and want play a moustache twirling villain/just like the aesthetics
>Camp B: people who want to introduce a little moral complexity and play a true believer of that faction
>people who see it as a stand-in for their IRL ideological beliefs and wants to spread that belief through that faction
Then on the pro-Rebels/Heroes side you've got
>Camp A: people who just want to be an objective good guy or like the aesthetics
>Camp B: people who want to introduce a little moral complexity by playing an antihero, cutthroat merc, or out an out villainous extremist that still believes in the same ideals as the heroes
>Camp C: people whose entire ideological moral framework consists of Star Wars and Harry Potter who think even liking stormtrooper armor is tantamout to holding neonazi beliefs IRL

Camps A and B on each side can already chafe against one another depending on what people want to get out of a game, e.g. whether you want to deal with moral complexity or just have a simple "heroes vs villains" romp, but typically they can find some sort of common ground amd room for everyone (Andor is a great example of people who exist all across the moral spectrum on both sides of the conflict), but it's Camp C that really poisons the well for all involved. And it's especially bad on the internet where you've got people using Star Wars (or 40K, or DnD, etc) as a proxy war in their culture crusade, trolls pretending to be culture warriors to rile other posters, and people LARPing as in-universe believers because having these sorts of in-universe, in-character ideological debates can actually be a lot of fun in the right context.

tl;dr: kill all self-inserters unable to differentiate reality from fiction and everyone could have more fun.

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