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>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
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>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
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>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics
Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!! Looking to do a week in New Mexico in December. What’s my best bet? Never been to the state before. What is the backpacking scene like in December in the land of enchantment? #516- “Spooky!” Edition
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janny pls…
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Talk about fishin >Tara Dower completed the Appalachian trail in just 40 days becoming the fastest person to finish it
Male bros it's over, how are we coping? Why do people think you need to go somewhere far away for "real out"? I go to random suburban parks near me that are just undeveloped forests or swamps and I have seen literally nobody in these places. What are the good reasons to not just use these things when crossing rivers? I know the corporations want you to buy expensive waterproof boots and whatnot but why not just slip the plastic sleeve over your leg and walk thru the river like that? Why is almost everyone in Washington state an obese liberal crackhead tranny? Oh, and don’t forget the rampant crime rates…
I’m a transplant and am taken aback by how everything is run here. I moved here a few weeks ago for the nature but am disappointed by the community. How could such a beautiful piece of land be occupied by filth? What would you use in case you come across one of our furry friends? I currently have a Remington 870 in 12 gauge and I'm saving up for a 44 magnum of some sort, not sure which one yet. Also not sure if this was more of a /k/ thing but I figured I'd try it here since it has to do with defending against beasts while /out/ting. >post pic of recent /out/ing
>take turns guessing where anons pictures are from Which is better for tying two ropes together, the Flemish Bend, or the Double Fisherman's Bend? I've been trying to learn one knot for every purpose, which necessitates identifying the best knot for every purpose, but I can't seem to find a straight answer for this one online. The Double Fisherman's Bend seems simpler to tie, since I already know the Fisherman's Knot, but if it's significantly inferior/less safe than the Flemish Bend, then I'd have to learn that one. anyone else agree it's the best time of year for /out/? it's 3-6C right now and all I wanna do is go on hikes because it's comfy, quiet and you sweat less, but it's not so frigid you need special gear. It seems like nowadays people don't even buy dedicated water bottles anymore and just buy regular off the shelf 1qt tall boys and re-use and re-fill them. For those of us that do this, what's your favorite brand and size of off the shelf water bottles to re-use and do you make any cap modifications/use a bottle cap from a different bottle? And how long do you re-use the same bottle for? 
In the West you have to carry way more shit because you can't rely on natural resources to improvise. For example, the only sleep pad you need in the East year-round is an ultralight closed cell cheapo pad, because you can just pile as many hemlock boughs underneath it as necessary for insulation and comfort. For shelter you can use a bivvy style tent and make a vestibule or other expanded living space from saplings and branches and bark. You can save tons of weight by just using a hammock tent. Dry firewood is absolutely everywhere and you don't need a stove. You don't need trekking poles because you can just make a walking stick. A folding saw and a sturdy fixed blade combined with some skill can replace almost half the shit people carry. Very hard to pull that off when you're in a place with very few trees that are all weak softwood and where touching them is banned. Lots of conventional backpacking gear and strategies considered basic and critical by others I just don't give a shit about because I've always just relied on bushcraft instead and see no reason to change. I don't even own a single inflatable sleep pad or fuel burning stove anymore, I would never carry such a thing. Modern outdoor footwear with "waterproof, breathable membranes".
Never waterproof.
Never breathable.
Every fucking time. Which one to choose and why? 
What a load of bullshit. I've been out here in the Colorado/Utah area for three months now and here are my observations.
> Massive volume of private property. Rich assholes own everything and turn it into private hunting land. Very little public land in reasonable proximity to any place where you can actually get a job.
> Serious public land access issues. Very little parking adjacent to public land, very little of that maintained in winter at all. Roadside parking frequently physically impossible for normal highway vehicles. The few decent parking areas are usually at the foot of incredibly steep mountains, so you basically can't do a single thing outdoors without first doing a grueling summit hike.
> Treeless terrain significantly reduces the value of public land. There is nowhere to hide. If you want any privacy you have to hike great distances. In the East by comparison you could stealth camp 100 yards behind Dollar General for years if you wanted to. All those satellite pictures showing population density by streetlight visibility are completely BTFO when you consider that tree cover massively increases the/out/ viability of any given piece of land.
> No trees mean no natural resources. No bushcraft material. No campfires. It feels like something vital has been removed from life. Playing with sagebrush and rocks isn't the same.
I have never felt more frustrated and trapped in my car in my life. I'm putting more mileage on it than ever.
I'm developing health problems because I can't get any exercise here because there's almost no way to actually access any public land. My whole life back East, I just took "going out in the woods" for granted. I'm moving back ASAP. This is literally the worst /out/ place in North America, nothing but rocks and 90 degree hillsides everywhere. I almost want to call 911 and say I'm trapped on I70. what happened to them bros? Everyone knows this state is a shithole in every regard. Someone please rec a better /out/ state to move to for a former NorCal fag and list your pros/cons. Money's not much of an issue.
>inb4 inb4 inb4
kys What is the worst piece of gear you've seen? okay last thread in the catalog is gay af so here is a machete thread
what should I be looking for if I want something heavy to cut through shrubs and thorns like an explorer but also maybe for firewood and full tang batoning and to have something to hold on when it's scary at night and I hear weird noises?
also bonus point if it allows me to larp as a cyberpunk pirate like pic related (is it really a cool looking flimsy piece of shit like I suspect?)
the cheaper the better btw What do you guys use for shoes? Are high top ankle collared shoes good for long distance hiking or is it mainly for hilly terrain? Are those $300 shoes overpriced meme shoes or is there a cheaper alternative that holds up well? Let's be honest. Most of the outdoor gear we buy is made in China and we just buy an item with 3x's the markup and a local company's brand.
What gear have you bought from China that turned out to be a better than expected clone or alternative or what is something you've bought that turned out to by a scam and a rip off? Now that the bears are in hibernation where you planning to go /out/ing for the next few months of risk free fun? What’s there to do around here that doesn’t involve the Appalachian Trail? Show me your cool rocks.
Does anyone knows what kind of rock is this one? Why do so many people seem to like solo camping? Aren't there too many risks? previous thread: >>2765467 place to buy kudzu seeds online? /out/ tourist here, but it seems like an appropriate place to ask
What's a good, cheap flashlight? I go through hiking boots quickly, typically I just deal with the smooth ruined sole and slip and slide. I'd like to get a pair of something resolable, which lead me to Jim Green leather boots.
Anyone hike in leather boots? I don't live in terrible heat nor do I wade through rivers. Thinking a single lined leather boot is going to serve me well in the long term. Recently got a NV monocular, nothing fancy just a cheap (compared to analogue) digital one. And I must say that exploring the hills at night with no torch is so exciting. I don't know how to really describe it..... somewhere between exploring places with childish wonder and doing something you know you shouldn't, but getting away with it.
Anyone else into the night vision game?
P.S. the photos don't look great but looking through it live somehow has more detail than the photo. Who is going? Wya
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Revival edition 
A few weeks ago I went camping in Northern ID. It was warm and clear out so I slept on a sleeping pad and only used a wool blanket and a hoodie for insulation. It was plenty and I slept great, but it probably didn't get down past 40°.
The blanket is the cheapest 80% wool blanket I could find at a surplus store. I think the brand is Swiss Link. It's relatively think and looks like a moving blanket.
It got me thinking, is there any benefit to 90 or 100% wool over 80%? Would a thicker wool blanket, like an older Pendleton or a genuine Swiss blanket, be noticeably better for colder weather, maybe down to the 30's? Asking because it seems like all of the good wool blankets are $75-$250, and while you definitely get what you pay for, I wonder how much more you get. I'm not suggesting a wool blanket over a real sleeping bag, or only using one in the dead of winter or something stupid like that. Just using one in spring-summer.
Does anyone here blankie camp? If so, what seasons? What's your setup like? What's the best way to be comfy? What does /out/ use for communication?
Many just carry a spot emergency beacon or similar, but what about something with more features? Where you can get weather forecasts, am/fm radio, even broadcast in an emergency?
Sure most people just use their phones and some apps now, but that's a big risk 
Old thread: >>2752854
This is a thread for enjoying a pipe while doing outdoor activities. If you ask why this belongs on /out/, you've never spent an evening by the campfire with a pipe silently enjoying the nature around you, and you're missing out.
>how to get started
Purchase a Missouri Meerschaum Legend and a pouch of Half and Half or Captain Black tobacco, available at most smoke shops. You will need a lighter or match, and something to tamp it with--a large nail works well if you don't have a pipe tool. Fill the pipe with tobacco, pack it down halfway, top it off, pack it down to 3/4, top it off again, pack gently and enjoy. Smoke slower than you think you need to, the tobacco tastes best when it is burning cool. Tamp and re-light as needed. If you still have trouble, try different methods on YouTube until you find one that works for you.
>smoking a pipe will give you cancer
While any tobacco consumption comes with some risk, the cancer risks from occasional pipe use are pretty minimal. Educate yourself and make your own informed health decisions. Some info here https://aacrjournals.org/cancerpreventionresearch/article/10/12/704/46541/Association-between-Cigar-or-Pipe-Smoking-and
>muh weed
Not the time or place. Start your own thread
>I DON’T LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE REEEEEE
Then leave the thread. Pipes have been a part of outdoors culture for centuries. If you don’t like it, leave. >"The water is fine bro come on in. You don't need to be just ankle deep at the beach."
>remember pic related lurks in the deep. And you are completely helpless. For all things fire lookout / fire tower!
Previous: >>2694387 Who are your favorite /out/ youtubers? This dudes recent video on rebuilding the cabin is pretty cool. How many of you practice,sword fighting/kendo ,knife fighting,archery Its seems like flooding is becoming much more common these days. I'm reluctant to believe it's 100% because of global warming. There has to be another reason to explain why it's getting so bad worldwide.
https://www.hashilthsa.com/news/2024-10-21/fatal-weekend-bamfield-road-heavy-rain-causes-washout-sarita-river >notices you
how do you respond without sounding scared? Is November too late to start /out/ing as a first timer? Anything in particular I should know about? Post cool and/or tasty fungi you find.
Found these gigantic chanterelles on a walk yesterday. They’re sopping wet and moldy so I highly doubt they’re any good, but man they’re HUGE. Luckily found plenty more of normal size and had them for lunch today! >>2767272
Did you get to hike/see any of the effects of the flooding recently? Anyone out here have some cool animal encounter stories? I kind of want to fight a mountain lion and I want to know how fucked you think I would be. I also want to know how I would go about finding one.
I'll share a story of my own to get started
>be me
>hunting in Arizona mountains with gramps and uncle
>We pull into a small glade to eat lunch
>There's a little "pond", not much more than a dirty puddle honestly
>Start to hear some galloping sounds
>Look around confused, we can't really see anything
>A minute or two a group of wild horses come to drink the water
>Surprised how soon we could hear them
>They're kind of nervous, but eventually start to drink
>They probably should be a little scared lol, my uncle's dog very clearly wants to chase them down but we keep him restrained
>Cool moment, we just vibe and watch the horses
Let's year (you)rs, anon Do you like to paddle, anon? Me and my friend love to use our kyak and explore. (pic related is a recent place Ive been) got pic rel for $5 at a garage sale but it’s bulky. any recommendations? You literally can't have anything nice when dogs are around. >large septic tank sunk into ground, furnished into a basic living quarters
>1 years worth of food, canned goods, nutritional drinks, vitamins, etc
>lights are lazerbrite heads (heads can last 200 hours on just 2 button cell batteries on low), with a years worth of batteries
>handpump well for water
>years supply of books
randomly thought of this today, how does this sound as an emergency bunker?
i'm not really taking this seriously, and i doubt i'll ever actually do it, but i'd still find it interesting to hear what you'd think Is there any good toilet paper for long hikes? Occasionally I've taken a dump in the wilds while /out/ but I feel guilty leaving the paper because regular toilet paper takes about three years to break down. Is there any better toilet paper for hiking? My dick rock collection is growing. I'm going trail riding with some friends soon in January and they think I know how to ride a horse. I know trail riding horses are conditioned to just follow the trail and don't wander off, but I'm wondering, since I have no experience with horses, how easy are they to control? I just want to avoid embarrassing myself is all. For example if I accidentally go somewhere I shouldn't and I want to get back on track, are horses easy to control or is it possible I'll fuck up even worse? Thanks I'm addicted to appreciating natural beauty, and this is the evolution of that. I live on the Olympic peninsula and have been taking my bike on solo camping trips in Olympic national forest as well as many day trips.
My "goal" is to try to go as deep and long into the wilderness as I can, but this is for the purpose of enjoying the wilderness to the fullest. I'm just a beginner but am learning with each trip and nerd out obsessively researching things.
It feels like the ultimate open-world video game. Of course this is precisely the kind of experience that such games emulate.
My bicycle is a Surly Ogre which is ideal for my purposes and rides like a dream. It has an overbuilt chromoly steel frame to be bombproof and handle lots of weight. Anybody been to one of Backcountry's retail stores? REI has gone to shit as everybody knows and I need winter gear, and I live outside LA (about to move away though, hence needing winter stuff) so the store there is doable but driving into LA is always a pain in the ass. Is it worth checking out? How's everyone going preparing for winter /out/? What are the best (and affordable) silvers you'd recommend? >nooo the Salton Sea wasn't our fault!!! we need more water!!!
You're doing your part, right anon? Genuinely cannot find any info on camping or anyone interested in camping who isn't a fag.
>Camping gear is not all plastic shit that costs 500+ dollars
>Campers are just gearheads who enjoy buying shit from REI more than actually camping
>everyone is a pussy. Don't even carry a knife or drink from a river because "knife le weapon" and "river le germs"!!!!!
>"camp mattresses" exist and are like 400 dollars for a glorified balloon
>Camping sites are just parking lots by parks, and filled with retards Id forestry a good out career?
>get to hang out in the woods all day
>physical work so get strong
>sense of adventure
>don’t have to deal with tourists like park ranger
Is become a logger the true out job? Hello, Im completing my "absentee father" hiking setup, help me gear up. What do we think about binoculars? Anyone have any recommendations for durable compact binoculars around $100? talk about ruckz and packz Is this brand worth the hype? As a outdoors juggernaut I think their brand has good quality products, gear ect. But I sometimes think about the price and get chills how much everything costs. I'm doing a little hunting right now and it's been raining off and on all day so I went back to my basecamp where my truck is at. And I believe I have found an amazing discovery that might just save the world.
If you want to make the rain start all you have to do is roll down your windows. theres a field near me and this one horse keeps chasing me - i won't even do anything to it and it charges at me. how do i kill it (in a nogunz country)? >but muh fourteeners
Elevation is a useless metric. Jut is all that matters These things are exploding in population. Why are they still protected? These are monstrosities early explorers feared more than cannibal natives. We had their populations down for a reason. Why are we welcoming back IRL monsters that literally want to eat us? We shouldn't be doing that until we have some sort of reliable technology where we can implant each one with a paralysis mechanism if it's close to a human and has the urge to attack. Hook up a bear nuerolink or some shit. But letting these things roam free is a hippie delusion. Wtf are we doing? He is so twitchy and nervous the last year or two since the ''incident'' and really not fun to watch anymore
Are all Canadians this highly strung and nervious all the time? is it part and parcel of living in a dystopia that you will take zero risks even when engaging in things like stealth camping Is it true that you can get lost easily in the Appalachians?
I want to go there someday but I'm scared I'll end up like those two Dutch girls in Panama
>not to mention the weird paranormal stuff Homestead General /hsg/
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Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.
Old Thread: >>2724333 /out/, wtf did I just read? Any of you hear or see this shit before? I was planning on spending a lot of time in national parks both backpacking and RVing. How do I defend against these park rangers? A gun, a cross, my GF that's slower than me? I can't sleep! Why are hikers so fucking chill compared to other outdoor hobbyists? They’re so nice and always greet you on the trail I understand you're not supposed to increase campsite altitude by more than 2000 feet per day. How true is this?
Planning a hike and due to how we're starting it there is about 4,300 feet of difference between the first campsite at 2k feet and second at 6,200 feet.
After ascending we'll have two days of fairly non-strenuous hiking before taking on more challenging stages.
How concerned should I be about altitude sickness at these heights? And is ascending your campsite too fast that big of a deal? Any tips? Hello anons, Floridian /g/ tourist here.
I want to wander around the Appalachian Mountains for a few days, in the snow. I am fucking tired of the heat. I am fucking tired of people. I literally just want to wander around in freezing cold snow, alone, for a week or so, living off the land.
Preferably I would like to avoid people as much as possible. I want to learn land navigation. I also want to bring a gun, shoot an animal, and eat it.
My questions are:
>how feasible is this for someone who has never been on a REAL /out/ trip aside from camping with his dad as a kid and hiking preapproved trails?
>what skills do I need to learn, regulations do i need to read, and equipment i need to bring to ensure that I don't suffer death, grievous bodily harm, and/or arrest during this trip?
>where should I go? my only stipulation is that there is snow present. I want to do this november or december. Tore where the pole meets the tent after retard tripped over the guy-wire while it was under tension. Not sure if regular tent adhesive or seam adhesive will fix it.
>inb4 buy another
>inb4 /diy/ It's been almost a year since the last climbing thread on /out/ died. The thread on /xs/ is overwhelmingly focused on gym climbing, so I'm making this attempt to revive the general. Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.
A place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).
Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.
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Adam Ondra sends world's hardest trad route Bon Voyage: https://youtu.be/ji4At78H5Ys What are some good battery powered portable shower systems for overlanding or basecamps? Is there anything powered by 18650 or 21700 batteries? It seems like everything is built-in battery nowadays which will just go bad with less charging capacity after a couple a months. Best place in California for camping? No ‘24-‘25 ski and snowboard thread yet? Post where you you want to go and what you want to do this winter.
I’m thinking of heading back out to work at a resort again this season, kind of on a whim.
I was a liftie a Breckenridge for a year right before COVID. I want go somewhere new though. Any tips for places with decent employee housing? Cant seem to find any discussion on this anywhere so I'll just post it here:
What are your thoughts on overalls for going /out/?
I fucking hate wearing rucking with shirts that constantly ride up regardless of their fitting and pants/shorts that, when you kneel or bend over expose your lower back. Tucking them into each other also just feels uncomfortable.
Something like picrel (2)?
Seems perfect for practically all weather right? If it's cold, just wear long-johns underneath and then and only then maybe like some ECWCS cold weather pants and jacket over it.
If it's warm then just rock the boiler suit with only regular underwear.
No sliding, no exposure of skin, no need for sunscreen and it even looks cool (picrel 1. Maru, from Heavenly Delusion)
Why hasn't it been done? what's a good recipe for a granola bar that doesnt care too much about heat nor cold outdoor. and that also lasts long, doesn't get moldy after a few days Has /out/ seen whats down there? Killed one of these creepy fuckers, any idea what it is? How do you recommend cooking on a campfire? this here meat was a pain to rotate and I accidently burnt off it's front legs. Then part way through the branches burnt off so I had to stab more branches into it's body only for those branches to be burnt off too. just found a 4 leaf clover and masturbated with it, do i still get good luck or sumthing Anyone else kind of conflicted with how to handle a heating source? I see so many people now using those soulless buddy heaters, but I'm worried about carbon monoxide. With a traditional fire it just makes everything smell like smoke for months, if not years if you keep it in a container. A stove is big and heavy, and a little collapsible wood stove is not going to really keep you warm, and is still going to put out smoke.
What do you guys prefer for Oct-Nov camping before the snow hits the mountains? >outfishes all your expensive fancy lures
Nothing personnel chud I'm planning on thru hiking the Appalachian Trail, probably within the next year or so to prepare myself and gather supplies. Any tips or tricks/things you wish you knew beforehand? I think I'm most worried about food resupply So Sandy Irvine's severed foot has been found on Everest after 100 years. Does this tell us anything about whether or not he and George Mallory reached the summit in 1924? Does it disprove the rumors that the Chinese found and disposed of the bodies? How could just a severed foot be found? Does this shit work or not?
I went into the Paramo shop today to take a closer look at build quality and to a lesser extent, the weight and I found myself wanting to get one to try. Thing is they're fucking expensive so I left before the lure got too strong to resist.
The shop assistant seemed quite frank about the whole thing. He said it works best on people who move a lot and run warm to hot, which is absolutely me. He said if you're a slow walker who has to wear a lot of layers then it's probably not going to keep you as dry as it could, which I appreciated.
The local mountain rescue all use Paramo and swear by it. But I've never seen any brand get so many mixed reviews with no grey areas. It's either "I've used paramo for 15 years and never gotten wet" or "I got wet every time I went in the rain with my Paramo"
What gives? How many of you carry a traditional folding pocket knife while /out/?
Do you feel the steel used in traditional folders is outdated or that they are harder to maintain?
If you do carry one, what kind? >that one faggot who goes camping/hiking/fishing etc alone Now that the dust is beginning to settle, which one is superior for the true outdoorsman? anyone here run trail cameras?
any recommendations?
want to buy one for my dad as a christmas gift as he's living innawoods right now.
just need something for his boomer mind that's easy to set up, operate and take out again to pop out and plug into a laptop to look at funny critters. hi guys I've started going out 1.5 years ago, when I started I was out of shape so I didnt do anything crazy, and went with a lower frequency, but with time I kept working out, rucking and now i got i good shape where i can complete expert infantrymen rucks in 2h47m which isn't anything crazy but its decent, and gain 1900m of elevation over 12km with a 45lbs ruck, I've always went on walking outings, tried snowshoeing, scrambling in summer, but never did any legit mountaineering shit, with crampons and ice picks, can you guys give me any advice or intro and where to look? I tried looking at CAI (Italian alpine club) but all the ones close to me dont have anything planned but normal walks, but I want to go with someone who's experienced for some times before trying alone since I've never done it.
also mountaineering thread general Looking to buy a road bike to ride on pic related. The trail is 30 miles (15 miles one way 15 miles back) and the entire thing looks like the image. Paved the whole way.
I currently ride this on a Trek Marlin which is a hardtail. My average speed is 13.8 mph and it takes me ~2 hours to complete the ride.
Will switching to a dedicated road bike significantly raise my average speed? I'd be very happy if I could cut the ride down to an hour and a half if possible.
Budget is ~2000 USD. Can go to ~3000 USD if the price difference is truly worth it.
BTW my dream bike is a Bianchi Aria Centaur. If I could easily obtain this in the USA I'd buy it but I can't find it anywhere. I only want it because I think it's beautiful, I have no idea if it's a good bike. As it is becoming increasingly clear that GoreTex is bad for your health and the environment, I'm looking for alternatives.
What are some good alternatives to GoreTex that's less toxic, but doesn't compromise too much on functionality?
Pic related; Fjallraven Greenland jacket, which uses wax for (some) water resistance. Rate my camping gear.
innawoods dot net thread Haven't seen one of these on /out/ in a while, first time following the Stalker challenge, surprisingly fun, even for a noguns britbong. Ended with 14 points at the end, next time I'm aiming for 20+.
Anyone else entered the Zone recently? lately i've seen posts in several threads about anons complaining they don't find people to hike with so i thought it might be good to have a thread where people post where they are and so on in case others are also interested and they can organize something together
i'll start, last half of september i will be on holiday and i plan on going to either pyrenees or the alps, preferably pyrenees because it's a bit cheaper. i'm up for everything but i usually do hiking and mountaneering, like ascending peaks on II or III terrain and so on. if i had a partner we could maybe do more interesting stuff. let me know if anyone is interested. currently i live in spain Need some shoe recommendation both for running and hiking. Thanks. ITT: ultramarathons, the pinnacle of human endurance
>What is an ultramarathon?
An ultramarathon is a footrace longer than the standard marathon distance of 26.2 miles. The shortest ultramarathons start at 31 miles and the longest known one is 3100 miles.
What gear do you use?
What type of training do you do?
What mentality do you apply?
What are they like?
Any interesting stories?
Any kino pictures?
Share them all! General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.
My personal questions:
I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?
I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right? Have you ever taken a gril /out/? Hello anons,
I'm looking for a cheap (~100/120 euros) digital camera to ous when going /out/, preferably with a rechargeable lithium battery.
Complete noob in this field, what are you suggestions? what does /out/ think of this list? are these good locations for /out/ing?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/slideshow/best-of-the-world-2025 Alright which one of you autismos did this?
>U.S. Forest Service officials are seeking information about the person or group that has been placing homemade spike strips and other dangerous traps across roads and trails in remote southwest Oregon.
>The federal agency said that in addition to spike strips, meant to puncture tires, there have also been wires across roads and trails reported in the Taylor Creek and Shan Creek areas of Rogue River-Siskiyou National Forest.
>“Reports have stated that the boards that hold the spikes have been covered with leaves, so it may be difficult to see them,” a Facebook post from the national forest said on Monday.
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2024/10/22/spike-strips-southern-oregon-forest-service-roads-trails/75796637007/ What's a good model, i'm tired of eating pic related I'm going to be homeless and jobless for at least the next summer and maybe autumn and I want to use this "opportunity" to try and spend that time outdoors in the woods. The plan is to only have to go to a store once a week or less to stock up on food.
Now for the real question: powerbanks are heavy and I would need at least 2-3 to last a week or more + recharging them would take a long time. How are solar rechargeable battery banks? I would be out 24/7 and in Finland meaning the sun sets after way past midnight and rises really early on. Would a normal sized bank recharge at least half way in a single day? If so, any recommendations for brands.
Also, homeless thread I guess. 
The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.
Rules are as follows,
>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.
>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.
>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so
>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/
Helpful Links
https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/
https://zoom.earth/
Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)
A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum
Listing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)
Frett not other Fossil anons, I am back! Just went through a hell of a big move from Dallas to Houston in the past two months, still going trouh all my boxes to find all my fossils to put back in my bookcase. For a thread starter I'll post on of the last nice ammonites I found up in Dallas before I moved. Placenticeras sp. Eagle Ford Group Britton Fm. Denton Co. Texas What brand of knife is this? Can't find anything with that name. Can you tell what this fruit is called?
pic taken in northern dalmatia, croatia What are these lighters filled with?
Everytime I add fluid the flame gets worse.
I need a recommendation on a good everyday lighter that works in wet hands and doesn't turn into a crack torch if left in a hot car What is the best one money can buy? How many biomes have you /out/ed in? This was taken in Colorado, any idea where? 
this is probably a long shot but has anyone heard about starks mine around the walnut creek park located in austin texas? allegedly there is a hidden mine at this park rumored to contain some gold from the robbery that occurred in the late 1800s. allegedly pic related is the mine thats in this park and most of the information isn't available about it since the county officials dont want to share the exact location of it since its closed off. i found some more information on some urban exploration forum that someone confirmed that the mine does exist at the park but they don't remember the location of it other than it being some hole in the ground. now ive been hiking around this area for about 6+ years and have been going off the trail and found what appears to be a sealed off cave, and by being sealed off i mean i found what appears to be 8 ft hole in the ground thats flooded covered by like a 5-6 foot rusted metal sheet thats like bolted to the ground. also if the mine doesnt exist there is a native america story about them hiding random shit in a cave, so there is some sort of cave/mine at this park that appears to be lost. Have you ever made your own tool or modified something for your own purpose that made it a more functional tool? I hear some people make floor mats or light weight temporary tents out of Tyvek because the material is very tough, water proof, and light. What have you guys diy or modified and for what purpose. Include pics. What is the best /out/ in the USA and why is it Southwest Colorado?
This variety and extremes of this region are unmatched.
Ouray, Telluride, Grand Junction, Durango, these places are in a league of their own when it comes to enjoying America. Was ACRNM the best outdoors clothes every designed by a genius designer's designer?
Or was it a total meme made by a hypebeast grifter and supported by Asian incels with an inferiority complex? >you have to buy trekking poles!
>you need something lightweight!
>if it's not collapsible it's garbage!
counterpoint: just pick up a stick Recently bought a carinthia gore-tex bivvy, tried using it just indoors for the first time on a carpet. But for the life of me, I could not fall asleep. My back and shoulders were in a constant state of needing to be popped (its hard to explain) and more importantly, I couldn't really fucking breathe inside the bivvy. I was laying in it with my head as close to the small opening at the top as possible but it still just felt like I was breathing in my own expelled air over and over again. Only violently moving my legs around seemed to pump fresh cold air inside the bag which gave me some comfort for like a whole 2 seconds before going back to breathing in my own air. Opening the zip up further helped only a little bit, but it still wasn't good enough to actually fall asleep for me. Opening it up any further and I might aswell just sleep with just a blanket on me, kinda defeats the whole point of having a waterproof bivvy.
Am I using it wrong? What headlamps do you guys use that aren't the permanently built in rechargeable battery kind? I got a Nitecore UT27 for camp, which comes with a rechargeable battery, but it's hot swappable for another one or triple aaa batteries. Now I'm thinking about picking up an HM70R 21700 with a powerful beam for walking the trail because it goes with my other 21700 gear.
What do you guys use that doesn't have a permanently built in rechargeable battery? Found coyote shit by the pond.
Have heard them nightly for months but never found sign this close to the house before. Have livestock and the wife has a small dog.
Looking for advice on a good setup to trap coyotes. I've got a pair of #3 footholds, a jar of bacon grease, some coon paws in salt, and an un-fleshed rabbit hide in salt.
Also, if anyone has good tips for other trapping, drop it here.
Personally, I like sardines and a dog proof trap for coons or possum
Another good trick is putting aluminum foil over the trap pan and leaving the whole setup in a pan of water. Any NM/Southern CO guys been up Wheeler Peak recently? I'd imagine it's pretty thrashed with snow right now. What route do you like the best? New thread since we’ve finally made it to page ten.
Previous Rudy Thread >>2750015
Recently, I had a poor wood dUck brought to me,
Do any of you guys ever see
Young motherless animals while out?
Anybody ever rehab a poor baby lost without its mother? Show me your critters give me some more advice for keeping the smug little ducker alive happy and healthy so hopefully it can rejoin the wild.
Status Update: Rudy is doing well and thriving. I took a stick to the eye and have to get reconstructive surgery do they keep you warm too or are they just for cooking? whats the advantage over a regular fire? Huts made Mostly of Natural material. nails, rope and tarps okay Fall is here, and with that, wool weather. Post your recent scores.
Topics include:
>alpaca
>bison
>merino
>cashmere
>tartans
>waterproof Irish sweaters
>anoraks
>touques and hats
>pants
>budget-score 100% wool work socks
>blankets
>army surplus finds
>washing and care
>dyeing and embellishing
>darning and patching
>DIY projects
Scratchfags must lurk for 2 years before posting. Is there any care or maintenance required for ceramic or controlled oxidation coats?
Should I apply a thin coat of mineral oil to my tools or will it damage the finish?
For example a Leatherman in Black Oxide or a Strongarm's Ceramic Coating? I DIDN'T FIND ONE SINGLE GODDAMN TIDDLYWINK OF CRACK WHILE I WAS HERE. FUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK Post photos you have taken that are outside, but not in a forest or undeveloped environment.
Interesting architecture, farms, power plants, dams, etc. What's a good /out/ podcast?
What I've gathered from the archive is that one anon likes "Call her Daddy" and another anon likes "Meat Eater" and "Bear Grease" which seem mostly concerned with cooking.
Is there a good podcast about hiking or nature in general?
https://archived.moe/out/search/text/Podcast/ I've never camped before. Is fall/winter a good time to start? 
I love going /out/, but I have a disability and as a result of that I have to take trekking poles for the harder trails, which help me in uneven terrain (where I lack the stability of a healthy person), with climbing elevation and whenever there's something like a larger rock in the way. They are kinda like a railing that I take with myself and enable me to do hikes that would be too complicated otherwise.
This year, after a particularly long day I was so exhausted, I tripped and fell over, cracking my carbon fiber hiking poles with my knee. I duct taped them together and they lasted the rest of the hike, but now I need new ones and I have some questions that may be some anons can help me with:
- How are folding trekking poles compared to sliding ones? Particularly when there's muddy terrain, if they unfold themselves in mud they aren't an option for me.
- I considered going aluminium alloy instead of carbon fiber, the idea being that if a similar accident were to occur, they'd be stronger and less likely to splinter (and instead bend). It's more weight, but might be worth it for me. Does that logic check out?
Picrel are some I considered, no. 1 is the one most closely resembling what I had before.
Here's some stats for the stuff in the pic:
# Carbon fiber
- 193 g/pole
- 62-135 cm
- 36,19 €
# 6061 Aluminium alloy 1
- 235 g/pole
- 62-135 cm
- 23,98€
# 7075 Aluminium alloy folding
- 234 g/pole
- 115-135 cm
- 38,62 €
# 3k Carbon fiber & 7075 Aluminium folding
- 221 g/pole
- 115-135 cm
- 46,10€
Thanks for any advice anons, I know trekking poles are a bit of a meme on /out/, but for someone with a disability like me they are what enable me to do hikes that I otherwise couldn't and thus they are what enable me to go /out/. theyre made of leather and heat and cut resistant, but do they keep warm? what can stop me from constructing an 1890s drilling rig in my backgarden i wanted to leave society and live as vagabond ever since i was a little kid. but ever since i could, there were always "convenient" happenings that emotionally coerced me into staying a slave. im 27yo now and notice that everyone i know seems to try to keep me from leaving but also wants me to suffer.
over a year ago i tried to follow my dream, had no money and no equipment, just left out of frustration and walked for 2 days straight. the first time i tried to sleep i was attacked by a weird women on a bicycle staring me down followed by demonic voices all around me. i got up and ran as fast as i could.
did any of you experience similar things? how can i be free? you guys got any pictures of instructions like rope knots, traps, basic shelters, scavenger stuff, home made rope, water purifiers stuff like that "TREES could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be TREES anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his wrinkled forehead. "I HATE TREES" he thought. That'll Be The Day reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $0.50 peppermint circulated through his powerful thick throat and washed away his (unmerited) fear of trees near houses. "With an axe, you can cut anything you want" he said to himself, out loud. Is it okay for the top soil to dry out for like an hour or two?
I know you have to keep it moist but not letting my top layer go dry for more than an hour in a warm, windy California city seems extremely difficult.
>let lawn dry out over summer
>removed Bermuda top layer with a hoe
>tilled soil about 6 inches deep very finely with rototiller
>smoothed flat
>scattered clover seeds on top soil
>watering 4 times a day to keep the top layer moist, sometimes 5 How long do you typically have to field dress an animal before it starts to rot? And assuming a hunter didn't have access to functioning modern technology (like electric powered coolers, etc) such as in the case of a shtf event or during old times, how would hunters conserve their fresh kills before the meat started to go bad?
Thanks in advance frens. 
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