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>You want to keep progressing, but if you stop eating lots of calories, guess what? You stop progressing, so you have 2 choices: Stop progressing, and get lean (lean pill) or you keep trying to progress, which means you can't cut, and you're forced to keep eating a lot of calories
I think you're half right. For people who chase raw strength/1RMs this is accurate . Once you stop chasing the 1RM dragon (age and injuries usually do it for you), and you start looking into strength endurance, then you progress without permabulking.
>inb4 "but but but muh girevoy sport/contact martial arts/gymnastics/etc faggots all look like undefined skinnyfat even though they're actually fit"
Yeah if you start off with that sort of training. Build the base of raw strength, then stop bulking and maintain it as you transition to strength endurance. Then you can recomp/slim down and still have progress (more reps, or doing the exercise for more time). Basically you come up with a point where you say, I don't want to lift more weight than I am, I want to lift the same weight more times without tiring
>inb4 "but-but-but muh calisthenics chads"
This is exactly what the callisthenics chads are doing. They just decided the line they'd draw is their own bodyweight (maybe with some leverage disadvantage), and that's cool, good for them and I support that. BUT if you want to be a bit bigger and move a bit more weight, it's safe to do a linear progressikn program, get gains with bulk and then once you are ready to go to an intermediate periodization program, STOP.
NO block periodization
NO wave loading
Instead, make it a stepwise loading for strength endurance and cut fat while retaining the strength you have. IMO best of both worlds.

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