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>You're shifting the goalposts anon, they were larger than Rome yes?
No goalpost shifted. Rome’s size wasn’t just about square mileage. It was about integration, governance, projection. Spain did that across oceans. Mongols? Fragmented. Caliphates? Regionally bound. China? Insular. Spain reorganized the globe. Cope.

>a few missions in a sea of natives
And Rome had border forts in Germania. Did that erase their empire too? You know who matters in empire-building? Who taxes, builds, imposes law, language, and culture. Spain did. Those “missions” seeded control. The last time I checked, the map still speaks Spanish.

>Aztec and Mayan scripts were syllabic
Cool. Syllabic ≠ sophisticated literacy. It’s like bragging about having crayons when the other side has a printing press. Where’s their equivalent of De Officiis? They had murals and memory. Spain had archives.

>calendars = advanced math
Yes, anon, predictable cycles let them guess eclipses. They weren’t doing calculus. You’re confusing empirical observation with real mathematics. Spain had algebrists by the 800s. Aztecs had a rock that said “it's sacrifice time.”

>Neither were they Spanish
Spain gave the platform for people like Newton to function: universities, patronage, theology, science. You think Nezahualcoyotl was funding peer review while flaying people alive?

>natives built buildings
Lmao, no shit, but the question is how. Hauling stones by slaves ≠ Gothic arches, vaulted ceilings, domes, and durable civic infrastructure. Compare a crumbling pyramid to Salamanca or El Escorial.

>one good on one route
Silver financed European dominance. One route was enough to tilt global power.
>b-but no one lived there
Tell that to China when they begged for Spanish silver to avoid inflation collapse.

>pissing in rivers
Spain also stopped doing that. Aztec civilization? Never got past it. They maxed out at ritual filth and blood runoff. Enjoy your sewer temples.

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