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>i understand it's important, i'm just curious how it would play out in real life
>if an upgraded phantom with hornet radar and avionics tangles with an actual hornet, obviously the hornet has much better performance and maneuverability but if both sides can see each other on radar and shoot amraams, how big a difference are we talking about in capability?
They added the upgraded german phantom to war thunder, though it's not hyper realistic, sim battles in it are close enough to roughly see how it plays out.
In BVR combat the F-18 and other 4th gens just engage in f-pole tactics, the phantom can't turn anywhere near fast enough at altitude, the 4th gen planes endlessly crank 90 degree turns while staying at mach 1. As soon as the phantom turns it bleeds all energy and doesn't have the thrust to accelerate while up high. If you evade the 1st aim-120 in the phantom typically the 4th gen has already evaded your aim-120 pointed it's nose back at you and fired a 2nd one.
The only thing it works against is the oldest mig-29s and su-27s that have horrible radar and semi-active radar missiles, you can dive and run away while they fly face first into aim-120s trying to provide radar illumination for r-27ERs.

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