>>94827242
>Your attitude of berating other potential players as too stupid to understand the rules CONTRIBUTES to Shadowrun going down the toilet like it did
Wrong. What actually happened was that brainlets constantly bitched and moaned about SR being too complex (instead of just finding a game which better suited their needs and expectations), which led to another gaggle of brainlets at CGL attempting to dumb it down. They failed, badly, so now 6e's combining the worst of both worlds and ended up irrevocably shitty - it's still not appealing enough to brainlets, but also fucked up beyond repair for actual SR players.

>they are turned off to the game
>people just quit before even trying in favor of other games that are easier to grasp in rules and concept
And that's perfectly fine. No game is for everyone. I won't deride a low-complexity ultra-rules-light narrative game for what it is and what is wants to do, but I can see and say that it's not for me, and isn't meant to be in the first place. And that's fine.

>you're able to read, understand, and remember all the rules of how the later editions of Shadowrun work
This is not as big of a feat as you make it out to be, and 5e isn't really that much more complex than 3e was. Now, whether you like stuff like that or not, that is the question that actually matters.

>>94828149
There's a huge difference between being a real potential player (who will indeed receive help if necessary) and being some digital rando on a basket weaving forum proclaiming that shit's just too hard for anyone and can't be done ever, which is patently untrue.
It's a complex system, but whether it's worth it for you is entirely subjective. And if you're really actually honest-to-god having serious problems understanding it, chances are it's just not your thing, and will not be worth it for you.

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